Need
a hit? A contract? Call David Foster. Almost every international
pop star has knocked on his door for help. His songs have been
on everyone's lips for decades and he hasn't been out of the hit
parade for 30 years. He is the reclusive multimillionaire music
mogul who fell for Elvis Presley's ex-girlfriend. Interview: Ariel
Leve
Early one morning in sunny Malibu, a taxi
turns left off the Pacific Coast Highway onto a private road.
At the end, the trees part and electronic gates swing open. Along
the winding drive, the driver rubbernecks in awe. "Does Michael
Jackson live here?" he asks.
This is not Neverland — there are no llamas — but
perched on the hill in front of us is a fairy-tale home. Villa
Casablanca is set in 23 immaculately groomed acres and its owner,
though not in hiding, rarely leaves. He takes few vacations, doesn't
own other houses, and both lives and works here. "Where else
would I need to go?" he says.
The taxi slowly rolls past a vast expanse of coiffed green lawn,
a tennis court, a rose garden, and a cluster of beautiful women
lazing on a marble stairway, waiting for a magazine's photographic
crew to set up. Close by, a wooden sign points up a hill and says
"main house".
It is the home of a superstar, not one whose face is recognisable
or whose name could be considered household. But the owner is
stellar in a galaxy of stars, a star-maker who has been consistently
propelling people to the top of the entertainment industry for
decades, a maker of legends and fortunes and fame. In the music
industry, David Foster's name is revered.
He answers the front door himself. "Come on in," he
calls out. "I'm just gonna hop in the shower!" At 54,
he is well groomed, handsome, trim and boundlessly energetic.
Today he will be bouncing from one project to another, dipping
into business, creative and personal work with the agility of
someone accustomed to making big decisions on the hoof. This morning
is frantic, as usual. There are people — caterers, he thinks
— milling about the front lawn, preparing for a charity
benefit event he will be hosting with Mel Gibson. There is the
photo shoot — a dozen people, aluminium cases of lights
and camera equipment, and assistants who have assistants, setting
up by the pool. And in one of the studios he has built, there
is Celine Dion's latest album to be mixed.
Here at Villa Casablanca, Foster has six studios — and he
needs them all, zipping from one project to another. In them he
has fashioned, repaired or rejuvenated the careers of the biggest
names in pop; composed, produced or arranged the scores of countless
movie blockbusters. It is to Villa Casablanca that divas from
Cher to Madonna will come to work. Barbra Streisand, Celine Dion,
Whitney Houston and Natalie Cole have all made the journey to
his door. Ghostbusters, The Bodyguard, Sleepless in Seattle, Moulin
Rouge and, latterly, Troy are among the movies that bear his hallmark.
He discovered the Corrs, Michael Bublé and Josh Groban.
His shelves groan under the weight of 14 Grammy awards. His walls
are covered with gold and platinum discs.
Racing from one studio to another aboard one of the many golf
carts he needs to get around his estate, he confesses: "I
used to feel that if I wasn't in the charts for six months, I'd
slash my wrists."
David Foster has come a long way since Cat Stevens knocked on
the door of his Earls Court bedsit in a purple velvet suit.Foster
is tall, affable and boyish, with a thick head of greying hair.
Back aboard the golf cart, we are on our way to the pool house
to check on Renee Olstead, his latest discovery. Olstead, a 14-year-old
singer from Texas, is a petite and delicate teenager with a voice
that invokes the soul of Billie Holiday. Today, Vanity Fair is
photographing her, and it soon becomes clear that when Foster
takes on a project, he is the consummate producer — involved
in the minutiae of the performer's image and overseeing not only
the music, but also the image and the business.
Dressed casually in jeans and a rumpled, white, long-sleeved Oxford
shirt, he strides quickly and delivers succinct instructions.
"I wish I had done this earlier," he says. "Being
a guiding light or a guru or whatever. Or just a guy on whose
tombstone it could say: ÔHe was good at finding new talent.'
You know? It's very gratifying."
Finding talent is his third incarnation. Foster's career as a
musician, songwriter, producer and the Midas of music has spanned
over 30 years. First, in the 1970s, he wrote hits for Earth, Wind
and Fire, and was a sought-after keyboard player and session musician,
playing alongside John Lennon, Diana Ross, George Harrison and
Rod Stewart. Then, in the 1980s and 90s, he moved into producing
and writing No 1 singles, blockbuster albums and movie scores.
But, by choice, he is now working less with the superstars and
is instead discovering and nurturing new talent. His first album
with Bublé sold 20m.
He sums up his work with the superstar divas such as Whitney Houston
as "maintenance". This is recognition that he did not
discover her talent, only galvanised it.
"You could arguably say, yes, I gave Whitney her biggest
hit with The Bodyguard — but Whitney, during that time,
was going to have a hit with or without me. It might not have
been as big, but yeah, it's maintenance."
He is close friends with Barbra and Celine but admits he was never
that close to Whitney, who has since seen her career crash due
to drug abuse. "As much as I love her as a talent, to anybody
that abuses the privilege, I say, 'Move over.' Because there are
10 others wanting to take your spot."
This no-nonsense attitude applies to his new talent too. Those
who he agrees to work with enter his "camp" —
which means that they must follow his rules, adhere to his guidance.
He says there's no reason for him to work with someone who doesn't
take it seriously; he doesn't need another hit record. He knows
the value of image, and won't shy away from directing a protégé
to lose weight. For an artist to have a career, he says, it's
about staying the course. Longevity. There must be commitment
and devotion.
Foster combines commercial savvy with his musical instincts. The
music industry, he says, is about slots and knowing which slots
need to be filled. Not only can he identify them, but he knows
how to fill them and with whom.
"Right now, the Neil Diamond slot is wide open. For some
young, guitar-slinging kid who plays three-chord music that everybody
can relate to. You know what other slot's available? The Michael
Bolton/Bryan Adams slot."
Now it's Renee Olstead's turn. Her slot has never been filled.
"There's no traffic," he says. "There's nobody
in her lane." Lately he has been coaching Olstead to eat
properly and to get enough sleep. He told her she's going into
battle. "She looks great, don't you think?"
Foster describes her as "a real purist" and, as she
gets her hair and make-up done and tries on designer dresses giddy
with the excitement of dressing up, he says: "I believe that
she can be a role model for kids — like the Britney Spears
spot in the beginning." But he admits that a sophisticated,
mature voice from a 14-year-old might be difficult to market and
that he's not sure yet who her audience may be.
We sit down at one of the shaded tables, and though Foster seems
relaxed, he rests on the edge of the chair — poised to jump
up at a moment's notice. Does part of him miss being the musician
on the road, the star on the stage?
"No — I have the perfect life. I can get a great table
at a restaurant and I don't get hassled when I walk down the street."
He lowers his voice, punctuating it with displeasure. "Imagine,
24 hours a day, people coming up to you saying they have to talk
to you — and it's the greatest moment for them, but it's
an absolute zero to you, but of course you have to be gracious...
"I see it with Cher. She uses my studio a lot because she
lives around the corner and we're friends. I used to be in Sonny's
band in the 1970s, and she did her Believe album here. But when
she shows up, everyone is whispering and talking. It's every waking
moment of her life."
He waves his arm around to indicate the good life. "I know
what my job is. I know what my slot is in the whole scheme."
Just then he voices concern. "I don't sound like an egomaniac,
do I? The printed word doesn't convey tone."
No. His tone hovers somewhere between someone who is used to success
and has lived with it for so long they don't know anything else
— and someone who has earned it, doesn't take it for granted
and is afraid it can all go away if there's too much idle time.
It is the tone of someone who is rich beyond even his superstar
clients' wildest dreams, yet knows what it's like to be penniless
and alone in a wintry London flat.
David Foster grew up on Vancouver Island, Canada, and had a "lower-than-blue-collar"
working-class background. Nevertheless, he was classically trained
and was awarded music scholarships, but he left school at 16 to
move to England where he and his band played with Chuck Berry.
"I was poor as shit. When the Chuck Berry thing ended, the
group went back to Victoria but I said, 'No, I'm not going home.
I haven't made it yet.' By now he was 17. He stayed in England
for another year, auditioned for children's shows playing the
piano — anything — but he couldn't find work.
"London was just the wrong town for me. I sat in my little
flat in Earls Court for a year and I had no money. I'm not crying
about it, it was character-building — but the only money
I had was spent on eating a Wimpy burger every day."
He had a little piano in his apartment and practised all day because
he didn't know anybody. "Friends? Not one. Not one."
He pauses. "I know it's sad. But the ending is great!
"Finally, after a year of this, I called my parents. I hadn't
asked for any money at all and I'd lived off my savings from working
with Chuck Berry. I'd rationed them out for a year. So I called
my parents and said,'I gotta come home. Please send me a ticket.
I'm so homesick, I can't stand it any longer.' They sent $60,
which was what it cost to fly back.
"My plane left at 7am, and the night before, at 7pm, there
was a knock on my door. I opened the door and this beautiful man
was standing there in a purple crushed-velvet suit. And he said,
'Are you David Foster?' And I looked behind him and there was
a purple Rolls-Royce. 'I'm looking for a keyboard player for my
band to do a world tour.' It was Cat Stevens."
They sat down and started jamming. Foster played; Stevens sang
— and at 4am, Stevens announced that he wanted to hire Foster.
"I said, 'Mr Stevens, this is the greatest opportunity I've
ever had, but I can't stay in this city for one more minute. I've
got to go home.'" Foster went. Three months later his father
died and he was thankful that he had chosen to leave.
But even at 17, Foster had the self- confidence to know that Stevens's
offer wouldn't be his only chance. In Canada, he tried to finish
high school but didn't. Music took over. He met BJ, his first
wife, married, moved to LA and was signed by Capitol records as
part of the band Skylark. They had a hit record called Wildflower,
which reached the US Top 10.
When Skylark broke up he played rehearsal piano for $5 an hour.
"I didn't give a shit because I knew that one day I'd be
making 10 bucks an hour." Foster tells his children: "There's
great dignity in flipping burgers if you know that in a year from
now you're going to own the store."
Foster and his wife stayed in Los Angeles and he eventually got
a job playing for the stage production of The Rocky Horror Picture
Show. From 1975 to 79 he worked as a studio musician, and he would
watch the producers on the other side of the glass.
"I learnt as much from the bad ones as from the good ones.
And I just knew I could do that."
By 1979 he was making a great deal of money playing keyboards.
He'd play on advertising jingles during the day then stay up all
night with Rod Stewart or George Harrison recording albums.
"It was great — no sleep, working all the time."
After a few years he decided he was ready to produce records.
But the first album he worked on never got released. The second
was for a group that never worked out. His third was a solo artist;
that didn't work either. After two years he became discouraged
and considered going back to the keyboards.And then came Earth,
Wind and Fire. A friend of his had given a song Foster wrote —
After the Love Has Gone — to Maurice White from the band.
They went to the studio to meet White, and Foster's friend introduced
him. He played the song on the piano for White, who said he wanted
to record it. "My heart was pounding," Foster says.
"I asked, 'When do you want to record it?' And he said, 'Tonight!'"
Thus began his relationship with Earth, Wind and Fire —
he went on to co-write all the songs on their album I Am. His
career was beginning to take off at last. Soon after, he began
working with Alice Cooper and the rock band Chicago.
He begins drumming his fingers on the table.
"I honestly believe that I don't know more than anyone else.
I think that you could pick a hit just as easily as me. All that
a hit record is, is something everyone wants to love. I've written
my share of hits but I've had my share of flops too."
The times he's surprised himself most were the first time he ever
scored a movie, St Elmo's Fire, and putting Natalie Cole together
with the voice of her dead father in 1991 on her album Unforgettable
— technically, he says, a great challenge.
In a 30-year career he has had only two short periods when he
was not in the charts. One came at the end of the 1980s, the other
at the end of the 1990s. After the first, he came back in the
early 1990s with Celine Dion and Natalie Cole. But then, when
Britney Spears and the Backstreet Boys hit, he says: "I found
myself chasing instead of leading. So I thought, 'Okay, I'm 50.
I want to keep making records — what do I do? I'm going
to go outside the box.'"
"Outside the box" meant finding and developing new talent:
Groban, Bublé and Olstead. "Ultimately," he says,
"it will be even more successful."
He's now vice-president at Warner Brothers. "What I love
about myself is that I've been able to adapt in a young person's
business. I feel
really good about that."
As Foster strides past the pool, he calls out to ask someone if
William, a young classical pianist he's working with, is in the
studio yet. There is a monorail from the pool to the main house
but it isn't in use. The pool has a built-in bar with underwater
stools. He says he hasn't been in it for a while. When asked how
long he immediately responds: "Um, a year." He laughs.
Foster is an alpha male and a family man. He muses that maybe
he works so often and so well with women because, "I have
six sisters, five daughters and two ex-wives." He clears
his throat. "I actually have another daughter who's 34 who
just came into my life a couple years ago." As we pull up
to a different recording studio, he tells me: "It's a long
story which we probably don't need to get into." Then, calling
out to the studio: "You ready for me to listen to that mix?"
For the next half-hour, Foster has his elbows resting against
the mixing board, eyes closed, his nose buried into the speakers.
He is listening to a new arrangement of Celine Dion singing John
Lennon's Beautiful Boy. Again and again the chorus is played.
Foster closes his eyes. The vocal washes over him. When the track
stops he says, almost unconsciously: "There's a steel drum
lick in the middle of the last chorus..."
Back on the cart again, we are on our way to meet William. He
is filling the slot that's open for a young, good-looking guy
who plays classical piano. In the studio, working with William,
there is a disagreement. Foster is adamant that the violin should
not rise high at the end of the track but William believes it
should be different.
"I could have said, 'Hey, f*** you — I'm 54, you're
24. You know nothing, right?' But I said, 'Okay, show me what
you'd like to hear; we'll play it from the top and see how it
sounds.'
"Is that manipulation? I wouldn't call it that. Who's to
say who's right? Am I right for saying it shouldn't go up? Opinions
are like assholes — everyone has one, right? My opinion
is just an opinion. But it's an experienced one. But, you know,
I don't ever want to take away someone like William's creativity
— or his ideas."Foster's wife, Linda, arrives at the
studio holding three Starbucks mocha lattes. Linda Thompson, a
former Miss Tennessee, was Elvis Presley's girlfriend for five
years and lived with him during his prescription-pills downfall
— from 1972 to 1977. She watched him self-destruct.
Linda Thompson has a nurturing and gentle Southern presence and
appears to be frozen in time as a twenty-something rock chick.
She is dressed in low-slung jeans and a white tank top bearing
the slogan: "Hard to Get". Her tanned and toned belly
is remarkably flat and she tosses her blonde hair back, explaining
how embarrassed her son, Brandon, gets when she shows up at one
of his gigs. Foster worked with Lisa Marie Presley a few years
ago and Linda marvels at how time has passed. "It was very
bizarre — to be in the studio and to hear Elvis's voice
come through and to see Lisa Marie there and my husband working
with her. Life is full of surprises."
They have been together for 18 years. They met at the Grammy awards;
Linda was sitting with Lionel and Brenda Richie. From the stage
Foster spotted her in her orange dress.
Linda has established herself as a songwriter in her own right.
With her husband she wrote the lyrics for Whitney Houston's I
Have Nothing, and has just written Miracle, the title track for
Celine Dion's new album. She admits Foster can be hard to live
with. "He can be temperamental. To work with him, he is fantastic;
he exhibits a lot of patience. He handles people very well and
I think sometimes, when you come home, you're just tired of being
diplomatic. So, yes, I have found him to be difficult. But he
is also brilliant and fun, and the bottom line is, when you bring
it to his attention, he's fair."
She is philosophical when asked if he has a desire to be the star.
"Well, if he sang, he would have a career in the limelight
— like Billy Joel or Elton John — because he is phenomenally
talented. But he doesn't sing and he doesn't write lyrics either.
You can't have everything."
It is late afternoon and we are back at the pool area. Olstead's
photo shoot is winding down. Her CD plays in the background, and
the lush and sultry sophistication of her singing voice is especially
striking in contrast with the innocent girlish voice that chirps
"great!" in response to Foster's question about how
it's going.
Foster must disappear soon to change for a charity event he is
attending, but for now there is time for reflection. Given his
definition of success — "when a person leaves the room
you know they're gone" — does he himself feel successful?
He demurs. "No." He explains that his reference point
is the buzz that someone, a Barbra Streisand, or a Madonna, or
a Bill Clinton, creates just by being in a room. There is a vague
sense that this is still what's missing for him.
"People like Bill Gates inspire me." People who have
had, as he puts it, a lightbulb moment. And his lightbulb moment?
Natalie Cole singing with her father on Unforgettable?
"No, that's just a record."
There was a moment, Foster says, back when he was doing The Rocky
Horror Picture Show, trying to be a studio musician and wondering
if he was good enough, when he was sitting in his tiny apartment
and he got a phone call. It was George Harrison calling to ask
him to play with him in the studio. This moment, he says, was
the moment he felt he had made it.
Now he's that phone call for the legendary divas or newcomers
bursting with talent, who await an invitation to share studio
time at Villa Casablanca. Yet Foster still seems to be waiting
for something, perhaps for his phone to ring again as it did 20
years ago.
David Foster is again tapping his fingers on the table top. Even
when he is still, he is in motion. His eyes widen as we discuss
the lightbulb moment. "Maybe it's still ahead of me,"
he suggests. "Wouldn't that be nice?"
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