Warren
Beatty loves him. Michael Jackson didn't listen. Madonna incurred
his wrath. He'll fight anybody who says Tom Cruise is gay - and
he's counselling Pooh. Interview by Ariel Leve
So why is Bert Fields crying?
It is a Saturday afternoon in Malibu. Fields is standing in his
sunlit kitchen, sipping white wine and chopping tomatoes. He has
paused because he is suddenly overcome with emotion.
'I'm sorry, it's still very painful,' he says. He is talking about
his second wife, Lydia, who died in 1986 from lung cancer. They
were married for 27 years. Her illness was one of the few battles
he has lost. 'I had supreme arrogance. I've never been able to
not solve a problem. I thought by reading everything I could get
my hands on that I would find a way to beat it. But I couldn't
do it.'
During her illness, his good friend Warren Beatty was terrific.
'He used to fly across the country to be with us at the hospital.
He said, 'Don't underestimate the power of a movie star.' So there
was this huge line of people and the doctor would usher us in
- not having to wait on the line for four or five hours. It's
a terrible thing, but I learnt a lesson about how unequal American
medical treatment is. If you have clout, your treatment is superior.'He
takes a sip of wine, resumes chopping, but his mood remains contemplative.
'It's hard when you live with someone for 27 years, happily, and
then that person is suddenly gone.' He claps his hands together
to signal that the anguish is over and refocuses on preparinghis
super-sized salad.
After Lydia's death, he was single for five years. 'Twelve years
ago, when we were both single, I hung out with Warren a lot.'
His brown eyes twinkle. 'The fringe benefits were terrific. There
was a girl I was with during the weekend and a different girl
I was with during the week. I was constantly shifting between
the two, and my house man, Hugo, would take the one girl's stuff
out of the house when the weekend came and then move it all back
in on Sunday night. They didn't know about the other.'
Then he met Barbara Guggenheim, the celebrated art consultant,
when she hired him to represent her. She was being sued for $5m
by Sylvester Stallone, who claimed she'd given him bad advice
on an art purchase.
'Bert is like a venus flytrap,' Barbara declares. 'He sits in
his office and waits for women to come in every 27 years. I met
him on a Friday. He called me up and said we should meet for lunch
the next day and discuss the case. I said no. He asked me out
for Saturday night - I said no - and Sunday night, and I said
no. Then he did something really bright. He said, 'If you go out
with me for dinner on Monday night, I'll stay in New York.' I
knew then. He was willing to put his personal life before work.'
Though Barbara never officially moved out to Los Angeles to live
with him, she brought her things over on each trip, piece by piece,
until she had moved in. After a while, she told Bert her friends
were worried - she had gone out to California 'on spec' and they
wanted to know what his intentions were.
'Bert said, "Tell them you're engaged," and I told him,
"I can't lie!" So he said, "Okay, then. Let's get
married." There was no hesitation.'
He told her right away about the weekend and the week girls, and
asked for a little time to break it off. 'I can remember I flew
out to LA for business and I called him and said, "Good news!
I can stay the weekend." He said to me, "Oh, I haven't
broken up with the weekend girl yet." What I liked was that
he was totally open and straight about everything. With Bert,
you always know where you stand. It's a luxury.'
Cooking is what Fields does to relax. At the end of the day he
has a glass of wine and unwinds. Barbara reads aloud to him from
history books while he cooks, which he always does because, he
says, 'If Barbara cooked, we wouldn't eat.'
Since getting a legal letter from Bert Fields makes people tremble,
the question that Barbara is asked the most is what it's like
to live with him. 'It's very easy,' she says, 'providing you eat
at 12.30 and eight.'
In Los Angeles, where people exfoliate marriages like flakes of
dead skin, their union stands out. They have been married since
1991. Fields rolls up his sleeve to display his scars. 'These
are from tennis,' he says, looking delighted. Every Saturday and
Sunday morning, from eight until nine, he and Barbara play.
'Did he show you his scars from tennis?' she asks later. 'Tennis.
No one gets scars from tennis.'
She describes her husband's competitive nature: 'One time we took
a Spanish class together - they put you alone in a cubicle and
you listen to tapes. On the tapes, the professor is teaching two
people, and you give your answer along with the others. So I could
hear Bert screaming out from his cubicle, 'Three to one! Three
to one! I've got three, they've only got one!'
Lunch is served. Or rather, Fields presents his creation. They
live in a simple and elegant beach-front home and he smiles when
Barbara enters the room, and when he talks about her his words
are weighted with reverence.
'I'm in love with my wife. Nothing is really unconditional in
life except love for your children, but you can be in love and
know that you can't imagine living without that person. That's
how it is with Barbara. I like commitment. I want it. I like to
have a buddy and I don't want more than one. Commitment for me,
it's not an onerous thing. I've never been afraid of it.'
Barbara confirms they never argue. 'Never,' she says. 'I would
lose, so what's the point?'In the morning while Fields is shaving
they have 'legal hour'. Barbara asks him questions like: 'What
happens if he says this? What do I say back?' She says she's been
known to literally follow him out of the door and chase him down
the path on his way to the car. 'He helps me enormously, even
though it's probably not his favourite thing to do at 6.30 in
the morning.'The more famous and powerful people are, the more
there is to protect and control. And when people in this position
want the best, they go to Bert Fields. His reputation isn't something
he shies away from. This is the man who has almost never lost
a case, who famously 'sacks' high-profile clients - Michael Jackson
for not doing as he was told, Madonna for questioning a bill.
He and Barbara divide their time between Malibu and their other
properties: a converted mill in the Loire valley in France, a
house in an ancient fishing village in Mexico, an apartment in
Manhattan overlooking Central Park and a Spanish-style 1920s house
in the hills high above West Hollywood. Conspicuous consumption
is an important part of Fields's life.
'It's only rational that if you buy a bottle of wine and it's
$200, and you buy another bottle of wine that is $17, you assume
that the $200 bottle is a much better wine. Similarly with lawyers
- if a lawyer charges $850 an hour, you're naturally going to
assume he's better than a lawyer who charges less - and often
that's the case. I'm a great believer in the free market, and
the market tends to determine these things.'
But in a land where lawyers are the butt of a million jokes, he
stands out. Powerful people in Hollywood regard him as above reproach.
After lunch he sits on the patio, and it seems there is nowhere
else he'd rather be. It is late afternoon, jazz emanates from
the outside speakers and he talks about what he does in his spare
time: writing. He has written two bestselling novels - The Sunset
Bomber and The Lawyer's Tale - under the pseudonym D Kincaid.
The hero, Harry Cain, is a slick Hollywood lawyer with a fiery
sex life. After his then 92-year-old father read his latest 'sex-trash
novel', he told Fields: 'This is fine, but when are you going
to do something serious with your life?'
This provoked him to write and research his first nonfiction work,
Royal Blood: Richard III and the Mystery of the Princes. He took
people who had been vehemently contentious on each side of the
controversy - did Richard kill his nephews in the Tower of London?
Was he this hunchbacked, crippled guy Shakespeare wrote about?
- and tried to bring a legal thought process to an examination
of the evidence.
For the past seven years, when he's not at his day job, Fields
has been working on a book about Shakespeare, using the same approach
he used for Richard III. Who was he? Did he exist and was he the
actual author of those revered works? So far, nobody has been
able to find any manuscript or letter by Shakespeare, ever. There
are six signatures by someone in Stratford-upon-Avon that may
have been made by Shakespeare, but Fields finds them to be unreliable
evidence.
He says there is no place better for research than the British
Library or the Society of Antiquaries in London's Piccadilly or
the College of Arms on Queen Victoria Street. He praises the British
for their marvellous sense of history, and says doing research
here has been very rewarding.
'I went to the College of Arms in London and said I would like
to see the application by William Shakespeare to get a coat of
arms and thus become a gentleman, and they brought me the original
application. Put it right in my hands! I mean, these are priceless,
priceless documents. I went to the British Museum library, and
they were so helpful. You'd think the English would say, 'Why
the hell do we need an American to do this kind of thing?' But
they couldn't have been nicer.
'The great thing about the English is that they don't throw out
anything. Old tax assessments from 1590 - stuff like that is all
available.'
He says proudly that he is an Anglophile. He marvels at the civility
of British courts. He likes the idea of wearing a wig and a gown
too. 'Our system comes from the English system, and I'm very sympathetic
to it. I've had a lot of cases in the high courts there, and I
feel a great debt to them. They're the origin of our system.
It's the great English jurisdictional decisions that have made
American law.'His maternal grandfather was British - a cockney
who fought in the Boer war, came to America and did quite well.
'He was tough, a terrific guy - I really loved him. He was a bicycle-racer,
travelled with the circus - an extraordinary guy.' Fields's grandmother
was the elder daughter of a German family, a stutterer whom nobody
wanted to marry because of her speech impediment. 'He loved her
in spite of this. So here he is, this soldier, an Englishman,
and even though he was a little crazy it was okay, because he
wanted to marry her.'
Fields's grandfather was lucky. He went to Baltimore, Maryland,
and near there found a swamp area where you could grow ferns.
He grew ferns and sold them to florists all over the United States
and became extremely wealthy and then, suddenly, lost it all in
the Depression. His mother grew up a rich heiress from Baltimore
and met his father, a surgeon, who married her when she was 16.
They travelled around Europe for two years before they got the
telegram telling them to come home immediately.
'All the money was gone. They were hugely wealthy and then, suddenly,
totally wiped out. So they all got into an old Buick - not a Ford,
because Ford hated Jews - and drove out to California and started
a whole new life all over again.'
As he stands on his porch, his voice becomes fragile. 'I've often
wondered, who really knows his father's heart? Who really knows
what his father thinks about, his fears? None of us do. No son
really knows what his father's thoughts are. My son, when my wife
was dying, he was terrific, he was just marvellous. But I think,
in general, sons don't know what their fathers are feeling. Fathers
are very brave and bold. You don't tell your son, 'Son, I'm scared
to death.' You just don't do that.'
He stops. For about 30 seconds there is silence. He is trying
to get the words out but he is gripped by the depth of his feelings
and surrenders to this profound sense of nostalgia.'When the war
came, we were terrified.' He speaks slowly and, as he chokes back
tears, his voice is barely audible. 'We were American Jews. If
Hitler won we'd go to concentration camps. My father was probably
45. Didn't have to go in the army, he was a surgeon, but he gave
up his practice to go into the service, because he felt he was
a Jew who owed it to America. So in law school, yes, I felt I
owed it to him. I said to myself, 'He's made this sacrifice to
send me here and I have to do well.' So I did. It was to pay him
back. I remember it with reverence, but it's not what motivates
me now. Different things motivate me now.'the house, heading out
for a walk down the beach, Fields points to a cluster of seaweed
with delicate purple flowers at the base of his steps. 'See this?
This is dying. It only lives for six months. Six beautiful months.'
Other than Barbara, he is pretty much alone. He doesn't tell a
lot of people what he thinks and what he feels. He doesn't need
to. But staring out at the sea, he reveals humility. 'There's
something so primeval about the ocean. When you're near it, it
makes you very conscious of what life is about. It makes you appreciate
your place in life - which is not a major place. It really isn't.'
He talks about occupying a tiny place on the planet and sits down,
burying his bare feet in the sand. The only sounds to be heard
are from the seagulls and the waves. 'This goes on for ever. This
will be here long after we are gone.'
His father urged him to pursue a career in medicine, but aptitude
indicated that 'If I were to become a doctor, the medical profession
would suffer greatly. Most of my patients wouldn't make it.' Instead
he attended Harvard Law School. A former classmate recalls: 'Bert
was this incredibly lively, good-looking and charming guy - but
he was also an incredibly dedicated and serious lawyer who worked
harder than anyone. He knew even then he wanted to be the best.'
After law school, Fields joined the air force during the Korean
war and was stationed in England, where he was assigned courts
martial - he dealt with two or three cases a day. His ambition
since then has been to win, because it's all a big game. His secret
is, he knows if he doesn't win, he'll be fine. 'You see it all
over Hollywood - people who are blinded by ambition,' he says.
'I don't think of myself as ambitious - the things I have, they're
not essential.'
Fields's son, James, from his first marriage to a college sweetheart,
is a former lawyer. He says of his father: 'What differentiates
him as a lawyer is that he has a remarkable creative spark. Great
artists, inventors and mathematicians have it - insight. He will
look at a problem in a totally different way, find arguments that
no one would have ever thought to raise. He's beyond a technician.
I know it sounds like I have hero worship - I don't. I know where
he's strong and where he's weak.'
'People ask me all the time about Michael Eisner at Disney,' says
Fields of his most famous adversary (and victim). 'He's an intelligent
guy, works very hard, he's a difficult person, done things I wouldn't
have done, but I don't feel vengeful at all, or judgmental.' In
1999, Fields represented Jeffrey Katzenberg - now of DreamWorks
- the man credited with reviving Disney. He was suing Disney and
Eisner for a breach of contract that Fields won - a reported $275m
victory that resulted in a humiliating loss for Eisner and a double
whammy against Disney, since Katzenberg used some of the payoff
to set up DreamWorks with Steven Spielberg and muscle in on what
was, until then, a monopoly of the animated movie industry. Even
before that, Fields sued Disney on behalf of MGM to get back theme-park
rights in Europe, claiming Disney hadn't lived up to its contract
obligations, resulting in loss of profits. Fields won a unanimous
jury verdict in that case.
He is renowned as the litigator who is able to argue any side
of the case: suing a studio in one instance, representing a studio
in another. Warren Beatty turned to Fields when Paramount told
him that he had to cut four minutes from his movie Reds so that
the film could be sold to ABC television. Beatty refused, and
Fields argued that the director's right to the final cut is inviolate.
He won the case and established a legal precedent, then fought
another case where he argued against it. He found himself supporting
the opposite position when the director Michael Cimino's film
The Sicilian ran over length and the studio ordered him to cut
it. Cimino took out the action scenes. Fields, representing the
studio, fought against the precedent that he'd established. Only
this time around, he argued that Cimino's second cut was not a
genuine final cut - that the first one he did he spent five months
on, and the second cut he did overnight in anger. He won.
Fields argues serious legal issues that just happen to be on behalf
of stars. His celebrity clients include Beatty, Tom Cruise and
Dustin Hoffman, scores of top record companies and studios such
as DreamWorks. He is working on a case that will go to trial in
July on behalf of Sharon Stone, regarding payment she claims for
the sequel to the film Basic Instinct. And other clients of the
moment include the family that owns rights to Winnie-the-Pooh:
Fields is once again suing Disney.
Because so many of his clients are famous, he is constantly fighting
off extortion claims. He despises blackmail more than anything,
and he protects his clients from this by swiftly going to the
FBI or the district attorney, and by hiring a private investigator
- whatever's necessary.
He advises clients never to pay off, and says he has never had
a client who's been found guilty of the charges made against them.sun
is beginning to set and, as we head back towards the house, Fields
tells me that sometimes he and Barbara take the people they know
and separate them into three categories. If they were all historically
transposed to the days of the Holocaust, there are those that
would hide them, those that wouldn't want to get involved, and
those that would turn them in. He pauses, then says: 'Tom Cruise
would be in the first category.'
Fields has paused at the edge of the surf. 'Do you know how many
calls I get - daily - from people, all over the world - China!
He's not gay.'
Asked why he thinks people care so much about Cruise's sexuality,
Fields offers up this explanation: 'He is America's hero. He's
gorgeous. I think every gay guy thinks, 'Boy, Tom Cruise, if he
were gay that would be great.' And I understand that. He's a lovely
guy, a delightful person. If I were gay, I'd like it if he were
gay. Being Jewish, I wish he was Jewish. He's such a good guy.
If I were Catholic, I would want him to be Catholic.
'It's become an urban legend that Tom is gay. And from time to
time, people come along and they get some exciting publicity by
saying, 'I had an affair with Tom Cruise!' But invariably it isn't
true. Sometimes, if they have some money, we take some money from
them for saying that, but whatever money we get Tom gives to charity
- he doesn't sue for the money. He has a great sense of humour
about it. And we've thought a lot about whether we want to do
this or not, because he could just shrug it off.'
The reason they do this - litigate - is that when something is
said today, it's in a computer for ever. Fields is fiercely protective
of the truth. His strategy has worked. In spite of the years of
rumours, nobody really cares whether Tom Cruise is gay or not;
the main thing is that his box-office appeal hasn't been tarnished.
What wins Fields the fees he commands as well as the respect and
friendships is the conviction among people with power that he
is guided by principle, and that he wins. He fired Michael Jackson
because when Jackson was accused by a 13-year-old boy of molesting
him, Fields believed Jackson was innocent, believed he had evidence
that would prove it, and that they would win in court. But Jackson
ignored Fields's advice to fight and paid off his accusers. 'I
don't think his career will ever go back to what it was,' Fields
says. 'He's a brilliant artist and a very sweet guy - and now
he will always be thought of as a child molester. It's too bad.
But I just couldn't help him.'
There are other clients who have been given the sack, says Fields.
'I've fired Madonna and Donald Trump - I've fired lots of people.
My friend John Goldsmith is now the head of Paramount, but in
those days he was the head of Sony. And one day I fired Sony,
and John called up and he said to me, 'Bert - who is your career
counsellor? Icarus?'
'Madonna, when she was making Evita, was in trouble because she
was associated with the Peronistas, and there were Argentine political
parties that were violently opposed to her playing this role,'
Fields says. 'Her manager called and asked me if I could help
her. I really wanted to, and I called a client and friend who
was a Latin American who had a lot of clout. So within 24 hours,
the president of Argentina was standing on her balcony saying,
'Don't hate her.' As a favour to me, he saved her.
'I said to myself, 'Should I bill Madonna a premium?' I certainly
made life much easier for her - and I might have saved her life.
But I said, 'No, I'm not going to do that.' Instead I sent her
a bill for $2,500 - which was the time I spent talking on the
phone to this Latin American guy. So her manager calls me and
says, 'Can you please give me a rundown of these charges? Madonna
thinks they're outrageous.' I said, 'You know what? Don't pay
me anything. Just never have her call me again in my life.'
Looking back on the event, he says: 'Maybe she didn't know - she
didn't pay attention. It could have been her manager's fault.'
Just at that moment, a dolphin appears above the waves - and then
dives straight back down. 'Ooh, look at that!' he squeals. 'Look!
Look! Those are real dolphins.'
On the walk back to the house, Fields quotes a favoured line from
Arthur Miller's play Death of a Salesman - a line that he clearly
feels defines him. 'Willie Loman is talking to his friend Charlie,
whose son has gone to law school. Willie Loman's son is a failed
football player who never did well. Charlie's son is arguing a
case the following week in front of the Supreme Court. So Willie
says to Charlie, "That's amazing! Your son's going to argue
a case before the Supreme Court and he never told me about it!"
And Charlie says to him, "He didn't have to. He's doing it."
Just like Bert Fields.
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